WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:11.040 So, my name is Tobias Augsburger. I'm part of the Open Sustain Tag community, also known 00:11.040 --> 00:16.400 as Open Sustainable Technology. I would try to make this actually a happy talk, even if the 00:16.400 --> 00:22.080 topic itself is not that happy. So, it's about disrupting the destruction of our natural 00:22.080 --> 00:26.480 world with openness, and this is a series of talks we want to make, and this is especially 00:26.480 --> 00:32.480 about traceability and accountability, because most people don't understand why open source 00:32.480 --> 00:36.960 open signs and all this open movements are so relevant when it's especially comes to trace 00:36.960 --> 00:42.560 ability and accountability. So, we are small community of people that come together and just 00:42.560 --> 00:47.520 try to find out actually what are the open source projects that are out there in this space so far 00:47.520 --> 00:52.800 and where are the gaps, and we are analyzing them creating a database all out of all those projects 00:52.880 --> 01:00.720 with about 2,500 projects at the moment, and those insights we create talks like this one. 01:00.720 --> 01:06.720 So, at first you might know that we have a serious problem that we have to face, 01:06.720 --> 01:12.400 so actually our natural world is going to die because of climate change. So, we are at the moment 01:12.400 --> 01:19.120 at about 1.5 degree, global heating, we might end up at about 3 degree, that's actually my, 01:20.000 --> 01:26.000 yeah, this is what I guess at the moment, depending on the current political 01:28.080 --> 01:34.320 climate, I would call it of ignorance and hate and fascism, so it might even be that we end up 01:34.320 --> 01:41.360 at 40 degrees, this is not very unlikely, and why do you trust me or why do you 01:41.360 --> 01:48.800 should trust the IPCC report, most known report about climate change, that's one very simple question 01:48.880 --> 01:54.640 because every plot of the IPCC report is completely open sign, open source, you can go there 01:54.640 --> 02:00.240 and have a look how those plots are being created, and I come to this more and detail now, 02:00.240 --> 02:06.240 so those scientists really try to open everything up that is being about climate change, 02:06.240 --> 02:11.600 and how they actually are analyzing climate change, and how they are doing forecasts in climate change. 02:12.880 --> 02:18.400 So, the reason why they exist climate change is because there's nobody else who can actually 02:18.400 --> 02:23.760 open up all this models or all this data to this proof climate change, keep this in mind, 02:23.760 --> 02:31.680 this is a very good idea how to understand how you actually test if somebody actually has sustainable 02:31.680 --> 02:38.080 intentions or not, so what does this people do, they use open signs and proof open signs that 02:38.080 --> 02:44.480 comes traceability, they use open data mostly from satellites and on C2 data, they use a lot of 02:44.480 --> 02:49.360 open source models and open source tooling to analyze the data, they execute all this data on 02:49.360 --> 02:53.520 machines that you can have to have a look on with maybe a Jupiter notebook, et cetera, 02:53.520 --> 02:58.400 then they have open forums, you can just join making issue, you can just make a request or have 02:58.400 --> 03:03.600 just ask a question, and they open up all of this in an open publication, you can all have a look 03:03.600 --> 03:11.920 into it, so that's the key actually to sustainability that those people found by just opening up 03:11.920 --> 03:17.520 all their signs, all their data, they just proof sustainable intentions, and this is the most relevant 03:17.520 --> 03:24.000 if you're doing a forecast, because maybe the forecast is not correct, maybe something is wrong 03:24.000 --> 03:28.000 with your model, it's something is wrong with your data, but if you open it up you can at least 03:28.000 --> 03:32.800 go into discussion about your data, about your signs that you're doing, and that's why this is 03:32.800 --> 03:40.800 so relevant, so what if you look into, so I wasn't academia, but I was also working quite some 03:40.880 --> 03:46.640 years before that in the industry, if you look into the industry, you see a lot of 03:46.640 --> 03:54.720 soil signs, actually soil signs is the state of the art in the industry, for example, for years 03:54.720 --> 04:01.840 ago you could go to to shell, and if you're just, we're getting some gasoline into your car, 04:01.840 --> 04:07.840 you can say yes, I want to do a carbon offset for one stand per liter, and this was so just 04:07.840 --> 04:12.160 a lie, and everybody who really knows about sustainability in about climate was saying yeah, 04:12.160 --> 04:17.360 if it's just one stand per liter, why are you just starting now with that, and what is people 04:17.360 --> 04:21.840 who are doing that just planting somewhere, some trees, and then we say yeah, the trees with 04:21.840 --> 04:29.200 some rock grow, and there's some of compensators, carbon you have created, and then some 04:29.200 --> 04:34.080 years later on there was an article in the Guardian that just found out that actually almost all 04:34.160 --> 04:40.160 those carbon offsets that are actually used to compensate your emissions were just a lie, 04:40.720 --> 04:45.520 but you unfortunately find similar lies also on products all around the world, like here from Germany, 04:45.520 --> 04:50.560 some beef, that is just saying yeah, if you eat this beef, you are actually protecting 04:50.560 --> 04:56.080 natural resources, this is standing there, it was the WWF sign, so this is really absolutely 04:56.080 --> 05:01.680 a lie because beef is the worst thing you can do for climate or the environment, and this is well 05:01.680 --> 05:15.040 known through the whole sustainability community, so the problem we are facing today is not that 05:15.040 --> 05:21.680 we are missing the technology, we are missing the good numbers, and we are missing good profits, 05:21.680 --> 05:27.040 so we have a lot of false profits that just tell you lies in like in parliament, et cetera, 05:27.040 --> 05:33.760 but also a lot of business people, so they tell you renewable energy is unreliable to expensive, 05:33.760 --> 05:38.160 but they even again don't have any numbers to prove that, they don't have any models, 05:38.160 --> 05:43.440 but nevertheless we still allow those people to speak, that is real severe problem, the same 05:43.440 --> 05:49.440 goes that actually climate change itself, not a severe threat to humanity, there's a lot of 05:49.440 --> 05:55.280 signs around us that is actually severe threat, and all those signs have been opened up to the world, 05:55.360 --> 06:00.800 nevertheless the journalists and people just pick up some paper that found without any data 06:00.800 --> 06:06.320 will fit without any model that is just saying it is not the case, so this is like really 06:06.320 --> 06:12.000 again and again the same pattern that you will see, you will also see that it can be reversed, 06:13.600 --> 06:18.320 there might be technology, but there is no proof that this technology can access 06:18.480 --> 06:27.680 get enough and it is economically sensible, so the solution to this is instead of just always asking 06:27.680 --> 06:32.320 what is actually sustainable or not, you are not an expert in climate, you are not an expert 06:32.320 --> 06:39.440 in biodiversity, you cannot judge if a product is sustainable or not just because you might think that 06:39.440 --> 06:45.600 I buy now this hybrid car, this is sustainable or not, the most relevant indicator or proxy for 06:45.600 --> 06:51.520 sustainability itself is how open was the person who is doing this claim, so has he opened up 06:51.520 --> 06:56.560 his data, has he opened up his numbers, has he opened up his models, has he actually creating a 06:56.560 --> 07:04.160 forum that he can discuss his claims, so that he at the end might end up after some discussions 07:04.160 --> 07:10.000 with other scientists in something that you can call the fact, so this is something that actually 07:10.880 --> 07:17.280 sounds totally stupid, but it's like if you would just create a label instead of all those 07:17.280 --> 07:23.520 other labels that just measuring how open are those claims that you put on something, this is 07:23.520 --> 07:28.800 much more relevant, you just multiply those score, like it's like the notary score, you notary score, 07:28.800 --> 07:34.480 you multiply the claim sustainability with the open score and you come actually up with a trace 07:34.560 --> 07:39.840 of sustainability, and this is what matters, is this what is being told to you trace 07:39.840 --> 07:45.040 with some or not, and you can prove, you can look at it, you don't need to be an expert in climate, 07:45.040 --> 07:49.520 but you can look into a paper, you can look if there's the data, it's the software available, 07:49.520 --> 07:56.000 is it open access, is there a GitHub account maybe of this project, and this is the most relevant 07:56.000 --> 08:06.080 indicator, so that's continued this forth, so maybe what we really need is actually labels 08:06.080 --> 08:11.520 that are open science, and maybe we can combine them with a QR code, so this QR code will bring 08:11.520 --> 08:17.120 you to open sustainable text, not to label, but it will, it's just as an idea, so if you combine 08:17.120 --> 08:24.560 both of them, you would have actually a way to look on a product, to scan it, and then to have 08:24.560 --> 08:30.080 the data behind it, and I don't mean that like a nice report, I mean the Jupiter notebook, 08:30.080 --> 08:36.240 the data that really is something that you can just trace back, where does those numbers or those 08:36.240 --> 08:43.680 claims that somebody is doing coming from, and if there's just open access and there's no data, 08:43.680 --> 08:50.000 no models behind it that you can have just a look at, then maybe it's just false claims, so 08:50.000 --> 08:54.160 you can use this for all those labels and you can just trash all the rest of the labels, 08:54.560 --> 08:59.440 so open science is really like, if you would have an open science label, it would really 08:59.440 --> 09:07.920 significantly change how we preserve sustainability and how we rate actually sustainability as a consumer, 09:10.160 --> 09:17.920 so let's bring this to one example, let's look on the beef example, okay, so here's just 09:17.920 --> 09:22.320 how you could do it, you could do it, and that's what I want to tell you, actually the solution 09:22.400 --> 09:29.440 to a lot of problems that we're facing today in climate change is false numbers, so we have to 09:29.440 --> 09:35.840 fix the numbers, and how do you fix numbers nowadays with open source, that creates the best 09:35.840 --> 09:41.840 numbers in the world, right? So you take like an open platform like global forest watch or 09:41.840 --> 09:47.600 the trace platform that gives you the agriculture supply chain, then you take an open source package 09:47.600 --> 09:53.040 like forest at risk, then you put all of this in an open execution way like a Jupiter notebook 09:53.040 --> 09:57.680 that just somebody can click on it and execute it by himself and have just a little 09:57.680 --> 10:03.040 code things are computing, and then you create a forum so that people can just ask questions, 10:03.040 --> 10:08.400 why do you use this data, not this data, why you use this model, and after that you try to 10:08.400 --> 10:14.560 create a nice plot, and this, if like a career could bring you to such a chain of knowledge, 10:15.120 --> 10:21.520 this is really proof sustainable intention, and this creates the opportunity on the long term 10:21.520 --> 10:27.840 actually to create numbers that we can really use, so what you can go one step further, 10:28.880 --> 10:35.280 you can just say yeah, we are giving so much subsidies to the fossil fuel industry like billions, 10:35.920 --> 10:41.120 but nevertheless we are society, we don't track what those people are doing with those 10:41.680 --> 10:50.240 money, even if today we have a proof about climate change, we give them billions, billions 10:50.240 --> 10:57.040 and billions again, but we don't enforce them to open science, so I was working in a European Union 10:57.040 --> 11:02.560 project of sports about traceability in climate, and I met people there, they are doing 11:02.560 --> 11:09.600 like this point-source emission measurements, and they told me and I was like yes we have a problem 11:09.760 --> 11:14.160 because the fossil fuel industry doesn't work with us, we don't know how much emission 11:14.160 --> 11:19.120 actually from such a point-source from an oil refinery is actually coming out, so we are measuring 11:19.120 --> 11:27.040 it for the satellite, but we have no way to validate our own data, so even today those industries 11:27.040 --> 11:33.680 doesn't work with societies to actually at least they should help to close the leakages, 11:33.680 --> 11:39.280 but I must also say we as an open source community we also failed, because we build so much 11:39.280 --> 11:44.640 platforms open street map, but why is there no open emission map that is really a community-based 11:44.640 --> 11:50.640 project, there's something like climate trace, it's from algors, the closed source project, 11:50.640 --> 11:56.960 I don't trust it because it's closed source, right? They do, it's an open data platform at least, 11:56.960 --> 12:02.800 but you don't know how they detect calculations, nevertheless even if it's now 2025 we have 12:02.800 --> 12:07.920 not as a community really created an open platform, there's one platform from Australia called 12:07.920 --> 12:12.800 open methane, it's really focused just in Australia and it only measures methane emissions from 12:12.800 --> 12:18.640 Australia on point sources, but it's so unpopular this project, I think free star something like that, 12:18.640 --> 12:25.200 right? You can, it's like it's such a relevant topic but nobody cares, like I've seen this in 12:25.200 --> 12:31.040 this area so many times and what I really think, what really could change things, if if we give 12:31.040 --> 12:37.120 this first of year industry subsidized we should enforce this by openness, they should install 12:37.120 --> 12:42.880 sensors at their emissions point source emissions and give this to communities so that they can 12:42.880 --> 12:50.160 validate those their satellite-based emission methods. This would create actually a way to actually 12:50.160 --> 12:55.680 trace and make them accountable for what they are doing, but we still don't do this and I don't know 12:55.680 --> 13:02.880 why, I don't know and I do this talks now for years, I don't know why we don't bring much more 13:02.880 --> 13:09.360 science and openness to sustain the ability itself, there's so much opportunity that it's actually 13:09.360 --> 13:15.520 there, you can even, I think you can even make a lot of business out of this nowadays, but nevertheless 13:15.520 --> 13:21.600 we are a little bit like say lost in our own world too much instead of solving actually real 13:21.600 --> 13:26.560 well problems that are out here and it can be solved with numbers and the technology like 13:26.560 --> 13:31.360 I see a lot of cool technology enforce them and I love technology that's not a problem, but we 13:31.360 --> 13:35.760 have to, there's so much cool technology like the satellite data that you can use this satellite 13:35.760 --> 13:41.760 data to do this observations is freely available, the tools is also freely available, you can 13:41.760 --> 13:49.200 do this, you can build a community around this and it's just the matter of that there is actually 13:49.200 --> 13:56.640 the interest also and the movement inside all of us to do this, so as actually last slide 13:56.640 --> 14:04.480 and I hope that is something you have understand that openness is really the key proxy to sustainability 14:04.480 --> 14:13.040 but because you never know if somebody's maybe did something wrong with this forecast, but at least 14:13.040 --> 14:18.640 every forecast that has been made that is really relevant for our society for our future should 14:18.640 --> 14:24.800 be completely open and if it's not open just dump it really just ignore it if there is some paper 14:24.800 --> 14:30.240 and if you just reading a newspaper article and you don't find an open access paper behind it 14:30.240 --> 14:37.840 but maybe even if the paper behind it is not open access then maybe it's just some created 14:37.840 --> 14:44.640 by some political interests of business interests, so thank you so much and I hope it was a little bit 14:44.640 --> 14:46.000 happy